EPISODE 11 - RECLAIMING LIFE - FABIENNE'S JOURNEY THROUGH STRUGGLE TO STRENGTH

Welcome to a transformative episode of the Montgó Mindset podcast.

Today, our host Connie Fluhme sits down with Fabienne, a client of Montgó Lifestyle, who courageously shares her powerful journey from struggle to self-discovery. After facing overwhelming challenges—divorce, a strained relationship with her son, and battles with addiction and burnout—Fabienne found her way to Montgó Lifestyle, where she embarked on a life-changing retreat.

In this episode, Fabienne opens up about the pivotal moments in her recovery and the profound impact of Montgó’s holistic approach. From the tranquil environment to personalized therapies, she reveals how the right support and a nurturing space helped her regain balance and rebuild her life.

Tune in to hear an inspiring story of resilience, transformation, and the journey to self-empowerment. Discover what it truly means to take a step back, heal, and embrace a new beginning.
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Welkom bij een inspirerende aflevering van de Montgó Mindset podcast.

Vandaag gaat host Connie Fluhme in gesprek met Fabienne, een klant van Montgó Lifestyle, die dapper haar krachtige reis van worsteling naar zelfontdekking deelt. Na ingrijpende uitdagingen—een scheiding, een moeilijke relatie met haar zoon, en gevechten tegen verslaving en burn-out—vond Fabienne haar weg naar Montgó Lifestyle, waar ze een levensveranderende retreat onderging.

In deze aflevering vertelt Fabienne over de cruciale momenten in haar herstel en de diepe impact van Montgó’s holistische benadering. Van de rustgevende omgeving tot de persoonlijke therapieën, ze onthult hoe de juiste ondersteuning en een zorgzame omgeving haar hielpen om balans te hervinden en haar leven opnieuw op te bouwen.

Luister mee naar een inspirerend verhaal van veerkracht, transformatie en de weg naar zelfversterking. Ontdek wat het werkelijk betekent om een stap terug te nemen, te helen, en een nieuw begin te omarmen.

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Fabienne: If I had to be honest, I knew I had a problem with alcohol. And this in the middle of quite a heavy period, this wasn't the best combination. I think it was more kind of a combination of a bomb that would explode than of a really healthy lifestyle. . 

Connie: Welcome to today's episode of the Montgó Mindset podcast. I'm Connie Fluhme, and today we're joined by Fabienne, entrepreneur and recent client of Montgó Lifestyle. Thanks for tuning in.

Station Voice: MontgóMindset, listen to your inner balance. 

Connie: Welcome to a new episode of the Montgó Mindset podcast. Today I'm speaking with Fabienne who has undergone an extraordinary journey of recovery. After a difficult period, which included a divorce, a strained relationship with her son and struggles with alcohol addiction, burnout and depression she found balance in her life once again. She achieved this partly through the holistic approach offered at Montgó Lifestyle. In this episode Fabienne shares her personal story and tells us how the care and calming and environment of Montgó Lifestyle helped her get her life back on track. 

Let's get started. Hello, Fabienne. How are you feeling today?  

Fabienne: Yeah, I'm feeling quite good stable, enjoying life, enjoying the simple things of life. Like nice days, sunsets, today. So, quite in balance. 

Connie: You've built an impressive career and personal life. But you came to Montgó Lifestyle with some serious challenges. Can you take us back to that moment and what led you to seek help? 

Fabienne: So, the last years weren't the easiest years in my life. And I had those kinds of periods several times in my life like probably most of the people. But I was struggling with getting over a divorce, getting over a new relationship, an oldest son who doesn't want to see me anymore. And wasn't that easy. You can talk about it with a lot of people, with a lot of friends, with a lot of people who help you. I also started to ask myself the question the two last years in my life, ‘do I really have an alcohol problem?' Because so many people just drink alcohol. 

You know, you go out and you drink alcohol. You go to a nice, fancy. restaurant, you get a menu, and you take additional wines but if I had to be honest, I knew I had a problem with alcohol. And this in the middle of quite a heavy period, this wasn't the best combination. I think it was more kind of a combination of a bomb that would explode than of a healthy lifestyle. I went to AA. I didn't find my place really in AA because they talk a lot about alcohol, but I knew that alcohol wasn't my main problem. 

My main problem was dealing with my feelings in an emotional way, dealing with my feelings, being able to reorganize my life without a relationship, without knowing what the day will be that I will see my oldest son again. And it was just very, very, very, difficult for me to do that. Although that I'm a mentor when I coach, and I help people doesn't mean you can help yourself in the same way. 

So, I was already like one year on and off with AA, but I felt that this wasn't the right approach for me, because it was mainly about alcohol, and I always wanted to have an overall look in my life. So also, to my emotional dis stability. I wanted to have a more holistic complete approach. And as there were some techniques there, I really do believe in like bodywork or, you know, all those kinds of techniques. I just thought like, wow. 

You know, if I go to, a therapist, you see them like once in two weeks, if you do bodywork, you go like once a month. And I was really searching like a separate place where I can really dive into everything together. Like fairly concentrated, seeing five people a day and really feeling those emotions and expressing those emotions and, didn't find a place here to go to. So, I just went onto the internet, and I discovered Montgó in a search. It just popped up. And this is where I went in contact with Erik, a name I saw on the website and like 36 hours later I had booked my plane, and I was on the plane.

Connie: That's really fast. Yeah, yeah. 

Yeah. It all went very fast. That's what I want to say. You are someone if you want something, you really go for it. 

Fabienne: I'm an entrepreneur. I am like independent for 37 years. You have this with entrepreneurs when they see something and it's good, just go for it. 

Connie: What were the biggest challenges you faced, such as your divorce or the strained relationship with your son and burn out? 

How did this affect your daily life? and work? 

Fabienne: It completely effected my daily life and work. The easiest thing is not to feel and just to go on and have a busy calendar with a lot of things like this is the easy approach. And this is the approach I also sometimes see with a lot of clients that come to me since am a mentor for independent entrepreneurs, but only female entrepreneurs. It's so easy to have a filled calendar, busy life, lot to do, and you don't need to tackle your emotional disbalances. And this is a lifestyle I don't really believe in for me this is short-term. So, I lost quite some energy in trying, giving a place to, broken up relationships. A son that left my life. And I could not else then be very honest with myself. And I really felt it was an energy drain. And there were some days when I had a filled agenda and a lot to do the main weeks were very good weeks, but the moment I was on my own and I was honest with myself I felt that I had been much stronger and I mean, emotionally, spiritually stronger, in other periods of my life. And on the long term it was much more being honest with myself to look to those emotional things. 

Connie: And did it feel for you like you failed because already as a child, you said when the teacher asked you, what would you like to be later on in your life? And you said, I want to be happy. how did it make you feel that all of a sudden, this happiness just didn't happen anymore? 

Fabienne: Yeah, but the happiness never happens, it's a choice to be happy and you know, and it's, how you create your life and the choices you make. 

But sometimes you can make choices, but it doesn't mean you can make a choice on how you really feel like in daily life and you had big struggles in your life. So had to do with being rigorously, honest with myself and happiness is something I also see on the longer term, not only like the, oh, it's nice to go out with some friends today. 

We do some shopping, have a nice day. Oh, I'm so happy today. This is for me the superficial happiness. You know, I wasn't that happy anymore. When you are not so happy you lose energy. When you lose energy, you are not so happy. 

You, you cannot lose energy and be happy. And if you are unhappy, you lose energy. So, I had to look to my energy drain, I even started to question, do I stay an independent? Maybe it's easier I go back, and I just go working somewhere where they pay me. But I noticed that's an excuse because I'm 37 years an entrepreneur. So probably this won't change even when I'm 75 years. I don't call it old 75 years of wisdom. So, the only way for me was to be rigorously honest with myself and tackle those things. It was already one year. 

I also had a coach here and it didn't go fast enough for me. This is maybe the honest answer. That I invested already one year. I listened to some great podcasts, like 'Being honest about alcohol'. It's a podcast in the Netherlands. where it's not only people who drink alcohol, but also people who are affected. And I could really see there that I'm not a kind of classical alcoholic that are so far that they drink, like on daily basis. But I saw when I didn't feel happy anymore and I lost too much energy that it was so much easier just to take up the drink. And there was a moment that I started to open like drinks in my home when I was on my own. 

So, I really went like, oh my goodness, this is a, you know, they call it a red flag. This was really a red flag. I had it for one year. So, it didn't feel that nice. It felt sometimes even terrible, but I did know when I was sure that even, although I felt that way, it was my responsibility to do something with it. You know, I'm not the kind of person who likes to settle down and being a victim and, oh my God. Look what my son did. No, I'm also 50% in those relationships. So, 50% of the responsibility is also my responsibility, but the responsibility about my happiness and my being in balance in a full life that's in balance is 100% my responsibility. 

So, I was the only person who could do something. 

Connie: So, you decided to escape the vicious circle and take it all into your own hands. And then you searched for more help and more efficient help and more quick help, I think. Yeah. Yeah. So Montgó Lifestyle is known for its holistic approach to recovery. 

Because that's not only therapy, it's a lot of things. Can you describe how this combination of therapies and emotional support helped you regain your balance, including also the food, everything that you experienced, the surroundings, everything. 

Fabienne: For me, it was really the help of all the professionals who were there. 

I have a very healthy lifestyle, so I eat very rigorous. Very healthy foods, I sport like five times a week. So, it was all there. And I could see when I looked to the other people who were there that the healthy food and the sport really also helped them. But this wasn't my case because I have this already here at home. For me, the case was having all those professionals to get it in one week and sometimes seeing five of those professionals on one day. I knew that I was captured into my emotions and that there were emotions in my body that had to be released. I knew they had EMDR. I knew they had all kinds of body work. I knew they had breathwork, I knew they had trauma coach. I knew everything was there. So, I had already maybe a little bit of information because it's also my profession, you know, I even could be somebody who was working there. For me, it was really the combination of all the best people you can really get on one week and even on daily basis, because I told Erik, Erik, you have a tough one when I go, because I don't go for the food. 

I don't go for the sport. I have this at my home. But I really go because I want to have like this coach and this coach and this coach and this kind of combination and the strange thing is normally when I come somewhere, I'm known as a woman who knows very well, what she wants, but some people call this also bossy busy. Busy and bossy or dominating. But this was completely okay. 

They tailor made my program even on daily basis. And this is incredible because a lot of the times they call programs tailor made. But when you go it's like kind of the same program for everybody and they call it tailor-made, but it was really tailor-made. And this was what's, made the biggest difference because I knew I had to release a lot of tensions. out of my body, I knew I could cry here, but there was such a concentrated  bottle of emotions inside my body. 

And I really wanted to have a release of those emotions. I cried there. I shouted out a lot of things. I even could fight with somebody because she said, 'just start to hit me'. I know when you listen to that podcast, maybe you think now 'this is a woman with a lot of problems', but I don't think so. I just think that I'm very sensible. That I can feel that my body needs. And this was all offered there and I saw all the participants because now there's a woman back home, she was there for four weeks. She's also a female entrepreneur. We are in contact. She witnessed my week, and she was impressed, but I witnessed also for three or four weeks since she called me her week. And, she got what she really needed like that I got what I really needed. And I think this is a strength of Montgó. 

 Yeah, I really do think this is a strength of Montgó. 

Connie: And was there a turning point for you during your stay at Montgó when you started to feel hope again, or a sense that you were making progress a specific moment? 

Fabienne: I think there were two moments. The first moment was that the second day I said to them in the morning, please when I'm crying leave the tissues, crying is not bad. Maybe more people should get in contact with their emotions and, and let them flow and asking like every person, if I start to cry, or if you see that I am processing something and it goes together with tears, don't give me tissues. Don't do what I'm usually doing at home that is calming down my emotions. I came here to let them go. So, the first turning point was that I took responsibility and told everybody ‘don't try to stop my tears’. This was the first one. Another thing for me, that really helped me a lot - and maybe it's strange for the people that work at Montgó, that there were also some people who didn't work at Montgó, but they were like volunteers. And it really helped me to hear their story. And those were the volunteers. And I also think, I'm kind of an exception in being there only for one week, most of the people are there 2, 3, 4, 5 weeks. For me, the turning point was more when I came home, what's going to happen the first day when you are home, can you really keep. something that's changed there. And now I'm back. 

Think for three weeks or four weeks, I don't really know. And I really can feel that something fundamentally changed there because it's very difficult sometimes to put it in words, I'm going to try to put it down in words. I feel like I have regained my inner strengths. Yeah, it's just as if I regained my inner strength and not because I talked about it, not because I did some mental work because we had also a lot of talking sessions. But also, because we did a lot of bodywork because we have a very intelligent body, you know, our mind is only a small part of our complete body. 

The brains only take like two kilos of our complete body. So, I can feel now that I am much more stable. And I'm once again in my strength and I didn't have that before. I went there, but I cannot really tell what a turning point is. It's like, the complete approach together. 

Connie: And the luxurious and serene environment of Montgó Lifestyle plays also an important role in the recovery process and also being outside of your own habitat. Being outside of Belgium, being in Spain, in a sunny environment. 

How did this environment help you to relax and heal? 

Fabienne: travel a lot and I'm used to being like every month, every two months in such a kind of environment, like in the mountains, in the nature and we are nature. If you look inside our stomach or our organs, we sometimes forget that we are nature. And being connected with what your real roots are, and this is being nature. 

Yeah, of course. Of course, this helps being around a space that offers you what eternity is the mountains, the nature. It really helps. And I think one of the main things is if I do things here, I have my laptop. I live in the centre of Antwerp. It's always busy. And I would say to cool down and to slow down it's like a necessary circumstance, you need to create within yourself because taking yourself seriously and to yourself and being able to open yourself for all kinds of growth processes it means to choose for slowing down. It's oh, wow it's a beauty environment. It started already very early in the morning that I first had a walk like for half an hour or an hour in nature.

Yeah, of course. It's, it's a very big benefit. 

Connie: Roots are an important topic in your life. I have seen that you did a painting course, and you also painted a woman with roots or was it a tree? I saw a short video about you. 

Fabienne: Oh, yeah, I have it in my bedroom now. 

Connie: Can you tell me a bit about what this painting means for you. 

Fabienne: Yeah, I went to France and, I like creativity. 

So, you know, I made one painting. There's a lot of artistic things that are just made one thing of it. And then I want to go to another style of artistic things. I went there one week on a course with a teacher. And as a homework we had to go out in nature and take pictures of trees where we felt connected to, and we had to bring those pictures with us. As soon as I have something with the topic of women. I felt that I was searching for a female tree. So, I did a lot of walks and went into nature searching, and sometimes I felt some trees with very original volumes. But I felt the image of a very sensual woman who was grown on a tree, or she became the tree or the tree became the woman. And with her roots, she was really connected to mother earth. And with her hands, she was really connected to the air. She needed the water to get herself the food she needed to make. 

So, I came in that castle with a lot of people who are for their third or fourth year in academic things. And I really told my teacher, like "I just have this image that I want to make the tree with the woman". And I got the exception. So, I had a lot of other students who said, "God damn", you know. But this maybe is also kind of me like, if I have an image, I try to create that image in our reality 

now here. So, I made that first painting. I worked like seven days on that painting and it's like every year or so I also make a vision board. I have a lot of vision boards, and a lot of my vision boards realized themselves already. I know the painting for me was really being in your wisdom and know that this is not being in nature and living a life only with being busy, busy earning money. 

Being successful can be nice, but it's all short-term. We must feed ourselves like, yeah, Montgó was one of the places that was very important to feed myself. I think this painting is about being in connection with nature and believing that we are much stronger than we sometimes think, but we can never do it alone. Such trees are seldom alone in nature, they survive because they are in a tribe with trees. 

Like we, people are in a tribe with people. Like Montgó is also kind of tribe for people who all have kind of the same issues, can be alcohol problems, drugs, but it can also be work-life balance because much more people struggle with work-life. And really being honest too. I really lived my life to the deepest in the way I know I can live my life. This is why I made; I think that painting. 

Yeah. 

Connie: What would you advise people who are still searching for their work-life balance. 

Fabienne: Oh, first they come to me. 

And if I think like, oh yeah, there were also some additional things. And for me, the addiction is not the addiction that people sometimes think you know, a lot of people think of drugs and alcohol, but addiction can also be work. A lot of people don't know that they are addicted to work. Or a lot of people don't know they are addicted to busy calendars. Or a lot of people don't know they're addicted to what society thinks of me. Or I'm a mother I'm addicted to always be in the role of the mother and then the children leave home, or you are addicted of being a partner and you suddenly get in a divorce together with for example, one of your parents who dies, and you are just not in your balance anymore. I think this is one of the main problems of Western Europe, that most of the people are out of their balance. And there are so little places where you can go holistic to work just on that balance. You know, I gave now myself seven retreats. 

If you look to the retreats, you have to choose. It's a retreat for yoga, and then you get only yoga. Or it's a retreat to have peace of mind. And then you only work on relaxation. Or you have retreats where they learn you to make nice food, but then you are only looking to nice food and. I don't believe in all those partial things. 

Connie: So, you are also a person who advises a holistic approach. 

Fabienne: Yeah, for me, this is the only way. 

Connie: What would you say to people who may still be hesitant to seek, help or take the step to come to Mongó Lifestyle? 

Because of for example, a burnout or a depression or another addiction. 

Fabienne: I will tell them if you say in your situation, probably if you are lucky, it will only take you one year or two years. And there is a lot of help but be careful because there's a lot of fractionally help. Like I go once a week, I go once a month. And I had the very severe. burn out in 2010, I had a company, I had 15 people working for me. 

I had 45 freelancers working for me. I had an arm I couldn't use anymore. I had problem in talking. I really had a neural logistic breakdown because this is a real burnout. It's a neuro logistic breakdown. I have an approach that you are sure that you have to give yourself over. Go to a. approach that come from different sides like Montgó. You know, it can be Montgó, can be something else, but don't just go to one person. Depression or burnout. You don't have to wait. 

You can also feel like you are out of your balance, but you are not in that depression. Yet. Or not in that burnout yet. And maybe you will never be in that burn out or the depression, but you are losing your energy. You feel that little by little, you are losing energy, and you start to settle down and be. they call it like, when I hear people like, "yeah, but you know, you just have to accept and settle down and be happy with the small things". And this is also true, but sometimes we forget that we are responsible to create our own dreams and own future. So don't wait until you have that. depression or burn out. When I went like four weeks ago, I definitely was in a break-down, but I was not in a deep depression, or I was not in a deep burnout. I just felt like a really needed a very severe intervention. I want like an intervention If my calendar was more open maybe I would have been there for two weeks, but I only had that one week. 

And I saw the miracles what can happen even if you decide for that one week, but you decide like 100% for yourself. Don't wait. 

Connie: And now that you look back on your time at Montgó Lifestyle, how do you feel today compared to when you first arrived? What has this process meant for you. 

Fabienne: A lot of my emotional things felt down in place. And one of the biggest things that really happened there I think is that once again I put myself on the first place? And not that kind of egoistic first place, but that kind of 'this is the happiest thing you can do for yourself' first place. I didn't realize that the problems I still have with my oldest son - because nothing changed - I didn't see him during this month. But on the emotional level, I gave my emotional world a lot of attention. And on emotional level I should interview now my emotions, and my emotions should let you show how they feel, but you know, this is difficult to do. But I really can feel that on emotional level I'm once again back the old Fabienne. 

I don't really know who the old Fabienne is, but you know, kind of speaking the old Fabienne who is stable in her energy. in her creating her own life, creating her own future, creating her own dreams. I have less energy drain and I'm less thinking It's that your brain overthinks, overthink, overthink, overtake the same thing again that I also did yesterday and the day before, but I cannot leave it anymore. This kind of stopped. Yeah. 

So, so that you wake up in the night and this, this little thing in your head, and it starts to make you. When you can't sleep anymore. It's probably one of those five or seven issues that are coming back every day or every week, or it's. It's an ever-new information. It's never new information. Always. Almost the same. It's the same thing that you better tackle? 

Because next year it's still going to be there. 

Connie: In our first long phone call you told me that Rogier helped you a lot in this whole process, Rogier is the founder of Montgó Lifestyle and has experienced severe trauma when he was young. In what kind of sense did he help you? 

Fabienne: He's bluntly honest. The first thing, I have a lot of appreciation because I saw the centre and I always have appreciation for people who dare to take up something and create something. So, he's an entrepreneur. Or the team as an entrepreneur because there's also Eric in the Netherlands. Um, the second thing is. He was so honest, he really said Fabienne, when you're coming home, you're going to be triggered. Alcohol is going to pass. loneliness is going to pass; you're going to be triggered. But the nice thing, what he also did, he integrated. A lot of scientifically based information. He lets us watch some films on television, documentary films about trauma, trauma healing. Because, you know, a lot of the things in our life we don't want to call them trauma, but. almost everybody has his own small traumas. Even when you were the second child of three children you had very, very loving partners for some people it's a trauma. You weren't the first you weren't the last. You didn't go to the Navy. Attention. So, traumas settle in very slowly. He showed me a way in his being that it was not about

"I don't need my addiction anymore". Yeah. And here addiction as too much work, too much attention, too much alcohol, too much drug. But I just really choose not to have it in my life anymore. And he helped and his people also helped in creating a strategy when the triggers are there you go to your strategy. The third or the second or third day that I really felt like, Ooh, I would also need something else. And this is more that he really listens and then the same day the change was made. So, he's walking his dog, but there’s an entrepreneur, when he hears some things he takes immediately action. I think this is what I really appreciated about Rogier. Also, when I went home, he said, "I'm not going to leave you, you will not be alone at home". And they have an aftercare program that I normally. I hadn't planned to take it because I also have some people here. But he said no, no, no, no Fabienne you were only one week here. 

I offer you the aftercare program and. tomorrow I have an online with one of the persons I met there. And he's huge and it's like that big type of guy. When Rogier tells you something he tells you something and you listen. Something like that. 

Connie: I'm aware of that. Yeah. 

 And you also mentioned that Debbie meant a lot in your recovery process. Maybe you can also tell us a bit about that. 

Fabienne: I'm going to tell, but maybe this is not for everybody because for me it was Debbie and for somebody else, it can be somebody else. Okay. I'm used to some techniques and the last year I also had some breathing techniques here in Belgium, and I felt the force of breathing techniques. And she helped me with breathwork together with bodywork where when I was in the sessions with Debbie, she could really feel as a bodyworker where in my body some trauma has integrated themselves in parts of the body. And probably when you are listening now, you're going to say those are strange things what Fabienne is telling, but just trust me, sometimes it really worked like this. You have some, emotional problems who have settled down somewhere in your body. And she could feel them. So, with the bodywork and the breathing, she helped me to go two, those parts of the body I really had like emotional releases that really helped me. She also when I started to cry she speeds up the process. She did things so when my crying was on the level of 20%, she said, bring it to 40%. When my legs started to move, she did some things that she said, like your legs are moving for 40%. She did something that she made my legs moving for 80%. I know it's abracadabra, but it worked like that for me. And there was a moment that I really got even aggressive in my movements. I was really shaking, shaking, and I - I had to throw things off me out of me, something like that. And she, came with her hips very near and she said "with your feet, Fabienne. really you can hurt me. You can push me away. Just. she was a kind of a war where I could give all my energy to. And this was for me a big help because two days later I said, oh, so, sorry, I probably hurt you, she just said it's nothing. My hips are just a little bit blue, but this is completely okay. Are you, you know, Things like that. So, they ask for the after program I said, I would like to have some sessions with Debbie, but it's not possible because it was real body work, we did together, we really need to work on the body. So, this was the role of, Debbie, but there were also other people had a very important role. 

It was not only Debbie. it was really an integrated program. 

Connie: As you said it's holistic. But, when we spoke earlier, you told me specifically that those people, they made really a change for you. Of course, there are many great coaches and people who work at Montgó Lifestyle and everybody has different, issues. So, for you, it's this and for somebody else, it's something else, but it's really good to hear this because it's your experience. 

And I think it's very important for our listeners to get an idea. 

Fabienne: Yeah. Yeah. 

Connie: So, you said, in fact, your situation in terms of the situation with your son, it didn't change, unfortunately. 

Fabienne: Nope. 

Connie: But the situation with the alcohol. How is that going? 

Fabienne: I had the year before Montgó that I was like, two months not drinking and then taking up some glasses, and then three months not drinking and taking up some glasses and a week of no drinking and taking up some glasses, but I really had made the choice that I really want to live in a sober way, really without even one glass of alcohol. And, before I went to Montgó, like when I invited people and we had wine on the table, I always like had an urge to oh, you know, it's so nice and so cozy. 

I want to have a glass, and I still associated alcohol with, a social lifestyle, like when you come together and there's a nice atmosphere, that you just take up that glass. And since I'm back, I don't have this anymore because I know that even that the one or two glasses, I sleep a little bit less, 

I have a little bit less of energy the next day and, I just don't want that one glass anymore. Because I got so clear if there will be a point in my life that I will drink, like, I don't know what once, twice, three times in a week two glasses is because I take up that one glass again. and I just want to have really that, that very freed up lifestyle without alcohol, because I also have something with healthy. I just don't want to have it in my body anymore. 

Connie: So, you realize yourself you just don't need it anymore. 

Fabienne: It's more than not need it. It's not want it, I don't want it anymore and not wanting it anymore goes for me further than not needing it anymore because you cannot need it and still want it. 

Connie: True. Very good news. And, you are, of course an entrepreneur. You are very busy. You told me you could stay in Spain only for one week because of your calendar. 

Fabienne: Yeah. 

Connie: On the other side, you say people are maybe too much hooked to their calendar. What are your plans for the future in your life as an entrepreneur. 

Fabienne: I can only talk for the next two or three years since I did several things in my live already. 

So, and sometimes it also depends on the people who come into your life. I'm like every six weeks for the moment -and I sometimes think how much coincidence is coincidence- I'm in the area of Montgó already for two years now because I'm searching a place to live. And I have some friends also living there. And this is not a reason 

I met Montgó. I met Mongo because I did a search on the internet, and I discovered they were in the area of Javéa, Denia, Moreira, that I love. And I said, "no way, I don't want to go and just come back from Spain and just want to go one week here in the Netherlands or here in Belgium", but this wasn't possible. So, one of the plans is I keep my company Healthy Wealthy Wise Women because we. I also do retreats. And then I go to Spain or Tenerife or wherever. But there is a small seed in my head that is looking and wondering, if I want to do more trauma work with people. But not trauma work because we are really traumatized. Trauma work because I just want to stay on this high level of happiness and taking 100% responsibility for my own life. 

So, not waiting until you are in that burnout, not waiting until you are kind of getting used that dreaming the real life doesn't exist, but that as soon as you realize this, you want to invest in yourself in a holistic way. And maybe I want to translate holistic. For a lot of people, holistic is like a huffy fluffy puffy. Holistic is for me being very down to earth. 

I know that one approach is not enough. 

Just like it's the same with setting up a new company. If you set up a new company, it's not only looking to the marketing. It's looking for the clients, looking to the sales, looking to the marketing, looking to the people. It's, also setting up a company you could tell that this is a holistic work because you tackle it, and you go in through different kinds of parts. So, if, you have an image of holistic, just maybe look to it In this way. 

Yeah, maybe more trauma work and getting my business over also to Spain. Since I'm when I'm now in Spain for one week, like every six weeks it's to relax, to be with people. But I always had a lifestyle, I call it, you have workaholics, and you have lifeaholics and I'm the kind of lifeaholic. So, I would like to bring a little bit of my business over to Spain. 

It can be retreat work. It can be leadership work where being profoundly honest about all the small pieces of trauma we all have in our body to integrate those things. Yeah, maybe. This is one of my new dreams. 

Connie: I think it sounds like a wonderful dream. And why should it not come true? 

Fabienne: Yeah, yeah, why? Yeah, because I don't believe in it. This is the only why. 

Connie: I think everything is created twice. Once in your mind and then in real life. 

Fabienne: Yeah. Yeah. Really. Yeah. 

Connie: And you can make that happen. 

I think. 

Fabienne: Yeah. Yeah. 

Connie: Is there anything else you would like to say to our listeners, or is there anything I have not asked you yet and you would like to answer? 

Fabienne: Yeah, maybe one thing. You can look to your situation in a proactive way and in a reactive way. the proactive way for me is where you realize like "maybe it's healthy that I just invest in myself". Not only in a new car, not only in a new relationship, not only in a new house, not only a new job, but just in you. Your intellectual and emotional body. And if you feel that don't wait until it's needed, it's because you are already on the reactive level, that you are a little bit further, and it's needed. 

You have to do something. If you think that proactively, it's just healthy to do this. Yeah. Just don't doubt. 

Connie: Thank you very much Fabienne. 

Fabienne: My pleasure. 

Connie: And thank you for listening to this episode of the Montgó Mindset podcast. Fabienne's story reminds us of how powerful recovery can be when we find the right support and the right environment. At Montgó Lifestyle, we not only offer care, but create a place where people can grow and heal.Want to know more about how we can help you visit our website for more information at www.montgolifestyle.com. We see you in the next episode where we will, once again share inspiring stories from people who have discovered the power of transformation.